thanks to all of you for being here. bill, let me begin with you. we ended the piece with the relationship between president obama and nelson mandela. and president clinton. they're important but didn't agree in important ways as politicians. >> they are. it's -- was noteworthy that the president he felt closest to was bill clinton because they had more in common and that mandela and obama. mandela has the joy in the robust give and take of politics. the schmoozing. the deal-making. the stage craft. the theater. obama is more cerebral. he doesn't seem to enjoy going up and shaking hands and the favors. >> speaking of the political theater. we have the video. you were with mandela on the day he cast the vote for president, waved that ballot. he knew what that meant to his people. it was such a triumphant day. you were with him through all the grunt work of creating a constitution. he knew that that white minority had to be free from fear and believe they rights would be protected. >> absolutely. it's no disstatement to say i counseled him on the cons